Thoughts on Charleston

Nine lives were taken in a church a few days ago in Charleston by a wanna-be white supremacist. The victims were black.

The massacre occurred at the Emanuel AME Church one evening during a Bible meeting. The assassin Dylann Roof waited an hour to make his move. He took out his gun and started firing indiscriminately killing six women and three men, one of them was Paster and Senator Clementa Pinckney. After the shooting, Roof managed to flee until he was captured in Shelby, North Carolina.

When asked why he did it? Roof replied that he wanted to start a race war. As it turns out, he was indeed a young white racist who intensely hated black people. Apparently, he planned to do something about it for months, according to a former roommate.

The families and friends of the nine victims publicly forgave Roof for his heinous act of terrorism, and I call it terrorism, because the young man was intent to start some chaos, drama and mayhem fueled by his white supremacist ideals he got from God knows where, probably from conservative media or from a hate site. He had a gun that he obtained and wanted to launch the first attack against a people he despises. And he succeeded in taking out a few lives, but his purpose was short lived somewhat as, with all tragedies, it only brought people, both black and white, closer together, if only temporary.

Sadly, there are still many people, mostly white, who supports Roof’s terrorism against the black community. They harbor the same racist feelings and views as he. Only many of them don’t have the guts to carry out the extent of what he did. Instead, they find other, more cowardly ways to express their white racist mindsets. But it’s still racism no matter how one looks at it, and it still harmful just the same.

Again, I call what Dylann Roof did that fateful night terrorism. But there are still those who are considered ‘officials’ that can not and will not decide on what to call it. One can only guess that it was done by an American white guy on American soil against black people. Instead, they see it as a singular occurrence by a lone wolf with mental problems. They treat it as if it happens once every hundred years or so, purposely ignoring the problem of the angry white male with guns who shoot up and murder as many people as possible before – in most cases – taking themselves out.

Those on the right have a hard time admitting that this was indeed a hate crime. They refuse to see it as such, because it goes against their belief that white racism is a thing of the past. In fact, I would say they are too scared to face the reality that racism is still festering in America, and are even more frightened to face their own as almost all white supremacists and regular racists identify with the right. And I think they know it, but yet, they reject that truth, because it counters their political ideals and faith that racism is no more. Yet, they jump at a chance to prove that black racism is here, and sure enough, there are those who blame the shooting in Charleston on black folks, especially the President himself who is black.

Racism in America is real. The actions of that young man helps to prove that we are far from post-racial as possible. There are white males out there who feel entitled to what he thinks is his, and they are pissed off enough to do whatever it takes to teach the world a lesson that the world is his to own and command. When he doesn’t get what he wants, he feels isolated, betrayed, and wronged, and with access to weapons, he will punish the world. Whoever’s in his crosshairs will feel his wrath. No one is safe, not even white people.

As both black and white people heal each other through this crisis in the community of Charleston, the wound of racism will still be open enough for another terrorist attack to occur somewhere else. Another aggrieved white man will carry out a mass murder due to white privilege being denied in his mind and heart. He will have supporters and “excusers”. People will try to deflect what he did on the state of his mental wellbeing and will ignore, on purpose, the realities of racism, whiteness and gun culture, all of which is part of the American existence and what drives American violence. And it will remain so unless society deals with it’s other pathology. The pathology of denial.

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42 thoughts on “Thoughts on Charleston

    1. White denial? Really? White people teach college courses about how horrible they are. A white woman fingered this guy to the police instead of going with a ghetto style “no snitching” policy.

      1. And? That has what to do with white denial? Your examples do nothing to disprove my point. Hell you ended up being an example to my point.

      2. Probably talking about honest American History courses. I had no idea that American Social Studies/History was that awful for whites. So history and social policies shouldn’t be told or accounted for because it’s just awful for white people. Gotcha.

      3. College courses in various “whiteness” studies. Let’s not act like we haven’t heard of them, and if you don;t know then just let your fingers do the walking, I don’t need to point out every little thing that most of you will not bother to look upon anyway. Whites love to hate themselves and dissect their actions, after the fact of course, and thus usually repeating them, only to “look deep within” once again, over and over.

      4. I’ve never heard of ‘whiteness’ studies and I’ve been college. I think you’re just awash in your guilt from the sound of it. And what’s wrong with looking deep within you to examine your flaws? You seem to think that it’s a problem. And judging by you and you’re links you need to check your own flaw of racism, my friend.

      5. You’ve not heard of whiteness studies, meanwhile you blog about and are consumed with race? Really? Somehow I doubt that, but you can let your fingers do the walking to find out about such studies, unless of course you wish not to know. Examining flaws and introspection are good and necessary things, I approve of such activities.

      6. OK, no big deal, we can’t all be expected to know about every single thing. That’s the point of dialogue, everyone can bring some new information and/or perspective to the table.

      7. “Whites love to hate themselves and dissect their actions, after the fact of course, and thus usually repeating them, only to “look deep within” once again, over and over.”—-And these courses prove that how? For starters college course are voluntary depending solely on it’s need to graduate or an interest. A white student could just as easily take the class to see what it is about. You would need to show the attendance records for race of each student and survey white students who take those course to determine if they are in it because they hate themselves and are looking to dissect their actions.

        Either way you still fail to prove your point here.

      8. @Brothawolf

        I think that is a huge part of it, but I think he is also trying to say whites are not in denial. They bend over backwards to cater to blacks so to speak. Thus his mentioning whiteness courses, but the kicker here is if people have to look it up then obviously not many people even know about it. Also they are college courses so you know how that goes.

        Though the big thing here is he is really saying similar things that Roof said and that says a lot.

        That is simply white denial at it’s finest.

      9. Whites deny nothing but instead love to take on the burden of guilt. That is how they are. The late Patrice O’Neil commented on this comically, it was rather accurate though. Whites are expected, by other whites of course, to take on this burden. And yes they do bend over backwards to help, not cater to, there is a difference.

        Those who choose to go to those courses are generally socially minded and tend to be politically active, many seeking to get involved in society locally and beyond, in policy making or in education, so this is something that will influence them in their potential public life.

        Denial? Please. This white guy killed black people in a church, no one denied that, sorry.

        As for whites never, ever, ever, ever being victims, nee, incapable of being victims- please. You seem to imply that whites are above pain, death, ruination, etc. It’s as if you believe only whites have agency and that all others are simply inanimate and waiting to be acted upon.

    2. @Sorry ’bout that

      Yet your whole post is riddled with denial. So either you are either deep in your denial or not white. You have yet to provide one source that shows that whites in general are not in denial.

      “And yes they do bend over backwards to help, not cater to, there is a difference.”—There is a difference, but it appears you do not know it even though you describe acts of both in your comment.

      “Those who choose to go to those courses are generally socially minded and tend to be politically active, many seeking to get involved in society locally and beyond, in policy making or in education, so this is something that will influence them in their potential public life.”—Yet you have provided much of nothing that says that to be true. Nor have you provided anything that says WHO attends these courses. It could be a bunch of black people for all I or anyone knows. For a variety of reasons no less.

      “Denial? Please. This white guy killed black people in a church, no one denied that, sorry”—So basically you have no idea what white denial is yet are still running your mouth? ROFL. No one said that whites denied that this white guy killed 9 blacks, but several (I have proof) denied that it was racially motivated.

      “As for whites never, ever, ever, ever being victims, nee, incapable of being victims- please. You seem to imply that whites are above pain, death, ruination, etc. It’s as if you believe only whites have agency and that all others are simply inanimate and waiting to be acted upon.”—Who said whites are never victims? This is obviously what you assume and you know what they say when one assume?

  1. Excellent point, Brothawolf!

    I may posted this series of videos before, but I will post them again now, because it is relevant to this discussion.

    Oh, btw, why do you allow these trolls to post on your blog?

  2. @ Sorry ’bout that
    Kind of like how KKK groups can remain elusive and keep practicing their hate even as high government officials or cops while crossing the line for years without “SNITCHING” on each other. Gotcha….

      1. I think I see what’s going on here. You’re trying to make it seem that white people are the true victims while blacks are not. I can tell by these links alone. I think you’re trying to invoke guilt onto us by displaying these black crime and black on white crime links to articles you probably got from a right wing website.

      2. Nice try Brothawolf. I simply asked where is this all-encompassing klan during these events, that’s all. The stories above are about open and shut cases, the trials are all over, the guilty were convicted. Those specific individuals involved in those cases were actual victims. So what is wrong with bringing them up? And where was this invisible empire when that happened, since as we know, they will burn down whole cities over a perceived insult, here are some actual cases, not ass-grabbing rumors, so if they are everywhere, where were they there? Perhaps these stories please you on some level?

        You might want to check my links again sir, they are wikipedia, the Daily Mail, The Examiner, HuffPo and some local news sites. Are those right wing sites? Are all of those cases unreal perhaps?

      3. I meant you must’ve gotten the links from a right wing site that has all those links, I’m assuming.

        What’s wrong is that this article is about what happened in Charleston and you want to bring up black-on-white murders. To me that’s underhanded. Yes, those murders were tragic, but so is this one. And to bring up those links was wrong because it was inappropriate given the current situation.

      4. Well, as you can see the links are from the HuffPo, wikipedia, The Examiner, The Atlanta Journal Constitution and from local news sites. Those are the origins of the articles and not some so-called “right wing sites,” by which I take it you mean blogs. I’ve seen stories for the first time, that were new t omega at least, on Brothawolf.Worpdress.Com, does that mean that the stories originated on this blog? Or rather that you hyperlinked to them? Do you really not understand that?

        At which point did I imply the recent murders were not tragic? I advocated this kid being put down; as in executed. It was not inappropriate in the slightest as I was responding to another commenter bringing up the kkk, which if it exists, did not do anything about those crimes cited in the links (which were not right wing, sorry) considering what we’ve been told about that historical groups vindictiveness and omnipresence. So it was not a response to the church attack but rather to a brilliant commenter. Did you seriously not see that?

      5. Make no mistake, this clown Sorry ’bout that’ thinks along the same line as this guy Roof does. Roof’s ‘manifesto’ is ridden with references to black on white crime. This is one of the influences, the ‘black on white crimes’ meme which may have influenced this asshole to go out and kill. Sorry couldn’t give a rat’s arse, all he wants to do is spew his/her, white supremacist ideology under the guise of ‘debate’ and ‘civil conversation’. He/she is none to subtle. This person is detestable in that he/she has, or has tried to, take a mass murder and try to tun it around to invoking one of the white supremacist canards, ‘black on white crime’. Well ‘Sorry’ I am on to you. This person spews the same shit from a different toilet bowel. ‘Sorry indeed’. Folks ‘debating’ this cretin is like farting in a wind tunnel. Sorry for the scatological references but this person is akin to a bacon strip on a pair of underwear. Folks such as this ‘Sorry’ masturbate regularly to the responses they get from black blogs.

        Let the mockery directed at this fool commence!

      6. I am going to say you lack a certain level of comprehension. Part of them remaining elusive (which does not mean invisible) means they would not be out starting a riot today. Especially when they can simply use the system to achieve their goals. There was a documentary out where they moved from that type of behavior to political after the civil rights movement with the belief that they could change and shape laws on the inside. Was on netflix.

        As to the links you provided they prove what exactly? You chose men that no one really doubts are guilty and needs to be in jail. Not getting your point.

      7. @Herneith

        So are those crimes listed unreal? People demand “evidence” for what is said, then, upon receiving it attempt to claim it as proof of some nefarious plot, like manganese in the malt liquor or something.

      8. @sharinalr

        We all lack comprehension, that is what discussion and debate are for. No one exits the womb knowing all there is. You can come to comprehension through hearing out differing views, but instead it looks like emotionalism rules the day.

        The point was, and it is obvious, that based on what a previous commenter said about the kkk, I simply asked why they didn’t so anything about those crimes, since they supposedly protect whites, or love whites and hate blacks? Why? Their goals? What were those in the above cases? To let a baby get shot in the head? The very fact that those events took place demonstrate complete lack of fear of any klan on the part of the perpetrators? It’s either a lack of fear due to the knowledge that there is no “klan,” or they are just to badass to be afraid. Remember, in the Knoxville case they cut the white girls breasts off, why did they not retaliate if they are a force still today?

        That was all I asked, no need to spin conspiracy theories about the question.

      9. Let me put this to bed once and for all. The point is that we don’t need the klan to punish black people whenever we screw up, because instead, we have white guys in suits, police uniforms and black robes that will carry out their own brand of justice against black people and black communities. Does that deter certain black folks from committing crimes against whites? Of course not. But what you need to realize is that crime is not a black problem, and the black folks in the links you posted would’ve likely committed a crime against anyone they felt were easy targets and in close proximity.

      10. @Sorry ’bout that

        “We all lack comprehension, that is what discussion and debate are for. No one exits the womb knowing all there is. You can come to comprehension through hearing out differing views, but instead it looks like emotionalism rules the day.
        “—That is a nice deflection speech, but let’s be honest. It does not take having a debate or even a real discussion to comprehend what he said. You simply didn’t and then created a response to center on what you believe and less about even really addressing his point at all. It is called deflection.

        “The point was, and it is obvious, that based on what a previous commenter said about the kkk, I simply asked why they didn’t so anything about those crimes, since they supposedly protect whites, or love whites and hate blacks? Why? Their goals? What were those in the above cases?—–You don’t even understand or comprehend what the commenter is saying about the kkk and thus are seeking to push your own point or agenda rather than refuting what he said. Your links do nothing for your supposed point. Why do you need to riot or kill any of those people when you can throw them in the system and keep them locked up? You can abuse as you choose. Not to mention the free labor

        “The very fact that those events took place demonstrate complete lack of fear of any klan on the part of the perpetrators? It’s either a lack of fear due to the knowledge that there is no “klan,” or they are just to badass to be afraid. Remember, in the Knoxville case they cut the white girls breasts off, why did they not retaliate if they are a force still today?”—–Again something that has absolutely nothing to do with the point. KKK does not function in the same manner as it did previously. Just because people are not fearing them does not mean they magically do not exist or do not hold as much power. They have just learned ways to be less conspicuous. Kind of like terrorist in the United states who look white.

        “That was all I asked, no need to spin conspiracy theories about the question.”—-You know how google works. Maybe it is time you start doing some research. 🙂

      11. 100% in agreement, nor do I think that should happen. But it was one of the illustrious commenters that threw that ball in my court, and….well, as you know by now, I take that ball and go full-court press sir. I am not afraid of magic words, or of being alone in an opinion.

        Huh? So the courts are the klan? Show me how that is? Do you have lynching photos? They sent the Knoxville guys (who raped the woman AND the man, and cut off her breasts) to a lifetime of 3 meals a day and card games. Did the klan do that? Should they not be punished for that?

        On your last point, yes maybe. That does not change the fact that they did it to whites in those instances. I’m sure they have raped, robbed and terrorized black folks every day of their lives, but there is no political gain from that, only when the odd white person does it is there something to gain. And why is it OK because they “would do it to anybody”? Because there is no supposed “racism” involved? So the lack of a sociological idea makes it not as bad? So in the rare instances whites do something to blacks then it is automatically racist? How do you know that??????? How do you know they are not just white hoodlums who’d do that to anybody? Come on now, do the serious thinking, you’ve had too many commenters just agreeing with you to much and you haven’t had to.

        Or maybe, you don’t care. Maybe you find it amusing. Just remember, there was no unity march for those victims, and many blacks at the time sided with the perpetrators- in fairness, those were mostly punks themselves. But so many whites march for unity in Charleston- I won’t repost that link again, links are racist- are they right in doing so? Or are they wasting their time?

        Now, good sir, it is bed.

      12. Sorry, if you bring up another black-on-white crime incident again, you will be banned from my blog. That has nothing to do with this article whatsoever.

      13. Very well, I made my point, you all understood but pretended not to, fine. Question though: if white folks are so incurably racist, why continue sharing a country with them? Is it just to stay and complain about racism? I’d think you’d want to divvy up the country and get away from them and all their racism. Why do you not want to get away from them? You know about the Georgia plan and “The Blueprint” don’t you? What’s wrong with those?

      14. The topic for this post is to condole with one another in regards to this heinous incident(correct me if I am wrong?). Good riddance to trash! This pos will have to go elsewhere to get his masturbatory groove on. I’m surprised it took you so long.

    1. @Sorry ’bout that

      “Very well, I made my point, you all understood but pretended not to, fine. “—Actually you didn’t. You are refuting what a person is saying yet you are refuting it with a whole different point simply because you do not fully comprehend what they said to begin with.

      He made it clear they were elusive, yet you keep pushing on the idea that they must not exist or must not have power because they did not respond in those cases the way you think they should.

      Your supposed point is pointless.

  3. The sad part is he/she is using an old double murder case where the perpetrators were caught and very much punished abruptly back in 2007….

    1. Sad? Right, that was soon long ago. Well, if it is less sad, a black guy burned an entire white family, plus their maid, back this past May. But hey, that 2007 episode was the only time ever, and after all the media covered that story day and night, night and day, 24-7 in fact, lol! I think you might be sniffing something other than teddy bears son.

  4. @Brothawolf

    As I said white denial.

    The ability to say a white person was just a hoodlum even after they stated they killed said person because they were black, or Hispanic, or Asian.

  5. ..This was a wonderfully written and thoughtful article, dear ‘Wolf!

    @ Hernie “Folks such as this ‘Sorry’ masturbate regularly to the responses they get from black blogs.” LmaOoo I just sent a response to you on another Charleston post from ‘Wolf sayin’ nearly the exact thing you said in regards to another troll!

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