xPrae’s Racism Denial: Part I

xPraetorius can not seem to keep my or Abagond’s name out of his blog when he talks about a supposed complex he refers to as the Race Grievance Industry (RGI). He strongly believes that “White Racism Is Simply Not a Big Problem in America Today”. So, I decided to pull one of his tactics and deconstruct his article one point at a time.

This could be a long one. So, I will divide it into parts as xPrae tends to write a lot.

Honestly, I wish I could have found someone the Race Grievance Industry (RGI) to debate honestly and straight up with my colleagues and me. I’m starting to believe there are simply not any rational arguments against the conclusion in our headline.

In our now more than year-long investigation into the Race Grievance Industry, we proposed to them several hypotheses that run counter to the conventional “wisdom” of the RGI. Our principal hypothesis was: “white racism is not a big problem in America today.” We encountered no real argumentation in return; only enraged, but largely empty, fulmination, stonewalling, hyper-defensiveness, evasion, censoring, insults, specious lecturing, indignant moral posturing, and other substanceless tactics — at all levels. We’ve featured in these pages the exchanges we’ve had with the foot soldiers and pawns — the “Brotha Wolf’s” and “Abagond’s” of the RGI.

xPrae is one of those people asking for explanations, evidence, proof and the like, to justify opposing opinions. But, and I’ve seen this before, he refutes them, whether they are objective and subjective, instantly. And he seems to conclude that any claims of white racism does not constitute any serious discussion as those claims are practically just empty cries and whines which he believes is a problem. And even if the arguments are fueled by raw emotion, that shouldn’t make them any less important to the conversation of race. Emotions are irrational, and so is racism. Yet, it is important that it must be brought up, because racism, institutional or interpersonal, micro and macro, can and does bring emotional and psychological trauma. So yes, anger and frustration are to be expected, especially dealing with those who can not take the subject matter seriously and hides behind it by asking for ‘rationality’ and ‘civility’. This is not to say that you can not have a rational conversation about racism. But some guys want to define what ‘rational’ means, not for insight but in order to shut you up or ignore you and assert their attitudes.

We’ve not yet published our research on the leadership and the mid-level organizers of the RGI, because (1) we haven’t yet finished compiling the results of those interactions, and (2) their publication would reveal who our researchers are, since you’ve probably heard of or seen several of their exchanges with prominent RGI leaders on television in the past year.

While the RGI at all levels are quick to insult and accuse, they are, however, slow to produce substantiation for their allegations. When they do produce such “evidence,” it tends to be anecdotal, or decades- or centuries-old, with little or no relevance to today’s America. In other words, we have seen — read this well — no current evidence at all to support the conclusion that America is a nation with any widespread hostility toward black Americans.

I will hold xPrae on his first proclamation of his findings, because I am looking forward to checking it out. If he doesn’t or refuses, then I can only assume that he’s putting up a front. If he does publish it, and it has no references, then I will guess that he used himself as a source. If he does publish it, and it has references which does’t exist, or that he releases his work through an outlet he claims has it, but is nowhere to be found, then again, he’s playing himself.

My last sentence is in reference to a comment he made about his claim that there is a “Praetori Scale used in several institutions of higher learning in America”. I tried looking for it online and found nothing. If it exists, then I concede. If not, he needs to come clean.

As for his second point, he has a funny definition as to what constitutes insulting and tries to portray that he has no idea why they would be pissed at – let’s say him, even if he calls opposing arguments “poppycocky” and “silly”. Not only that, our arguments won’t fly, because he claims the RGI produces “evidence that is anecdotal, or…old, with little relevance to today’s America” Thus, there is no proof that America is not widely hostile towards blacks.

Unless he’s been living under a rock for the past 40 years, there has been mountains of evidence that prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that institutional, as well as individualized racism, is still highly active.  There have been documents, research papers, books, videos, etc. written within the last few decades. And more are being cranked out. There are even connections made with the distant past that explain the present in terms of race relations and social behavior. Yet, xPrae doesn’t consider them “substantial”!

This book is just one of many that documents the current era of racism.

In no way did we ever say that white hostility toward blacks does not exist, or that white Americans have eradicated racism entirely from their midst. However, we advanced the idea, and our research has borne it out, that such racism simply no longer represents a significant obstacle to the social, financial or political advancement of black Americans. Or, as expressed above, it’s just not a big problem anymore. Furthermore, whatever impediment white racism does prove to be, is nullified by widely and readily available recourse to redress, as well as by a nationwide, all-pervasive climate that swiftly and decisively punishes even the slightest hint that one might not hold black Americans as a people in the highest regard. (cf, eg: Deen, Paula)

Maybe xPrae didn’t exactly say that white hostility towards black does not exist, or that white Americans eradicated racism entirely from their midst. However, claiming that white racism is not a big problem, is no less ridiculous.

He claims to have research to support his claim, but I have yet to see it, let alone know where it is in his blog. And I’ve tried asking him, but to all I got was basically the Emancipation Proclamation, the Civil Rights Act and the pouring of “trillions of dollars”. Still, he holds on to notion very, very tightly, never showing signs of letting it go and intends on repeating himself as many times as he likes.

But I shouldn’t be so judgmental seeing as how xPrae states in an exchange I had with him on his article:

“I know more about black people than some black people. Especially from the historical, demographic, economic, and political perspectives. From those perspectives I know more about black people than the vast majority of black people.”

To be continued…

 

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36 thoughts on “xPrae’s Racism Denial: Part I

  1. Leave that jackass to his own devices. The man’s a lunatic. He, Thor, and Da Jokah/Churches, should start their own blog…..Oh I forgot they did, MAD magazine for white supremacists!

      1. That’s because they’re a**holes! A**holes do stupid sh*t!

        By the way, have a nice Memorial Day!

  2. Where are xPrae’s comments? I’m sure he’d have something to say. Does he know you’re trying to do this?

  3. @Brotha, I’d like to see you debate xPrae. It would be a lot of fun to watch. It might make me a better arguer too. I have to admit, xPrae’s good at what he does.

    1. Not really. I’m not good at arguments, but Abagond, another blogger who had to deal with him, would say that he’s not good at arguments. He argues in a manner of a teenager. He refutes states that oppose his opinions. And he wants you to think what he thinks. He’s not into debating as he is wanting to change your mind and agree with him.

  4. But don’t you want him to think what you think too? What’s the difference? Don’t you want to convince him that he’s wrong too? I went over to his site and checked out what he said and what you said. It looks a lot like you were trying to convince him that he’s wrong too. He’s a windbag but he DOES let you argue with him. Why don’t you let him argue with you? It doens’t seem real fair you just taking his stuff and not letting him defend himself.

    1. I’ve bent over backwards telling him what I think and presented info to back them up. He has made good points, but overall, he’s not about arguing or debating. He wanted me to think what he thinks without question and with little support on his part. As such, he would insult like a spoiled brat while babbling on how he’s right with little or no info to back up his statements.

      I will not give him a chance to defend himself, because he lost that right the moment he started acting up and playing the victim. No. I will no longer put up with his brand of white male paternalism.

      1. My Brotha! I’ve been following your little xPrae parties for a while. I’m on YOUR side in your arguments, but i don’t thnik he ever insulted you lke a spoiled brat. And he never played the victim, you played the victim by getting all upset about what he said. If you don’t agree with hijm or don’t respect him then why do you care how he talks to you? You talked a lot worse to him man! If you’re talking about rudeness, you did everything but call him the devil! You called him things I NEVER would ahve called him and I’m on YOUR side! Look I sympathisize with some of his ideas becayuse I read his blog and he’s f**in smart but if you never let him come here then I won’t hear what MY people have to say to him directly. Get over your litle power trip and let him back. I wnat to jump in and help.

      2. You can’t be serious.

        xPrae has been totally condescending towards me, Abagond and other commenters. There are witnesses. True witnesses who’ve also followed this skirmish and they will agree that he was not only the instigator, but also the agitator. He has used insults in order to undermined different opinions in order to make others feel low for not agreeing with him. It happens often in the topic of racism. That’s why I called him a racist. That’s why many consider him a racist.

        To be blunt, I don’t need the help of someone who looks at xPrae with sympathy when he has clearly shown none to others who have the nerve to have different views regarding racism that he will never consider.

      3. Your kidding right? You were a LOT more condesending to him than he was to you. He was completely calm and you called him evey name there is. Maybe you didnt like that hes calm wehn he argues with you. You’ve completely diasapponted me. YOu can’t be serious that xPrae is some kind of mionster when you act like a spoiled little jerk baby. I can beat him. I like him because he’s nicer thn you, but I can beat him.

      4. Read the comments in this thread:
        https://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/paula-deen-and-the-good-ole-days-of-overt-racism/

        He will say that it was a black woman who was responsible. If it was, he should’ve apologized. Besides, I still believe it was him and not someone else as their writing is closely similar.

        Here are some other examples:

        https://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/conservatives-free-stuff/
        https://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2014/03/23/the-white-man-march-pffft/

        But if you still wanna believe that he was the nicer one in this mess, go ahead and keep telling yourself that.

      5. You’re a fuckin chicken Brotha Wolf. I’m ashamed to say it but its true. I’m ashamed.

      6. Do you really believe that the only solution to your problems is to hide in the corner and cover your eyes like a little girl?

      7. Did I say that I was going to hide? No. So, stop putting words into my keyboard. I just know when to quit. xPrae doesn’t. And now, I quit having this conversation with you.

  5. Pratoriass doesn’t ‘debate’, he unequivocally states. Woe betide the negro who disagrees with him unless they are kerchief heads who love receiving white validation. Oh, and it doesn’t have anything to do with your political slant that’s just an excuse to use straw man arguments. At their base, most arguments about racism have nothing to do with politics but are based in white supremacy. Political perspectives may be derived from white supremacy as are many subsidiary arguments. It is just convenient for fucktards like pratoriass to accuse those who do not agree with him as being ‘liberal’ something I might add that democracy is built on, that is liberalism. What is liberalism or conservatism? Two sides of a

    1. This is why I called him a racist. He makes those who are victims of racism feel low simply because he doesn’t believe that racism is a big problem. That’s what a racist does.

    2. I don’t know, @Herneith. All you just did right there was unequivocally state things. I never read anywhere where you or Brotha Wolf didn’t just unequivocally state things too. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. If you bvelive something why shouldn’t you just state it? What’s wrong with that. I read yours and xPrae’s arguments and you both just unequivocally state things. why is it wrong fo r him but ok for you?

      1. Herneith has a right to express her frustrations with xPrae all she wants. As for me, I’ve stated plain and clear what my problem with him and his views are. I see no need to repeat them.

      2. That’s fine but it its just ok fo r you and her to just say things but not for him then how the f*** is THAT fair?

      3. I’ve given him freedom to say what he thought. He then became snobbish and repetitive, saying the same thing over and over again in a demeaning tone as if we don’t know any better. I had enough. So, I’ve banned him because I couldn’t stand anymore of his insanity.

      4. She should have the right to say anything she wants but she accused xPrae of just stating things unequivocally when that’s all YOU do and she does. I asked her why is it wrong for xPrae but its ok for you? You didn’t answer you just stated that Herneith has the right to say anything she wants but why doesn’t xPrae have that same exact right? And you and herneith are always a lot ruder to him than he is. I’m starting to think like they’re saying on the other blog that your just afraid to let him back. I guess I don’t blame you he ripped apart your other posts. Maybe you should just ignore him because you don’t have the brains he does and he keeps beating you pretty bad.

      5. Okay. Here’s what I see.

        I see a person whining so much about how mean black folks are picking on poor, sweet xPrae. It should be obvious that xPrae has started this back-and-forth and now that there are people fighting back, it’s wrong.

        You and the other likeminded individuals scurrying to defend xPrae may think he’s beaten me, but I’m not in this to beat anyone. I’m here blogging about what doesn’t often gets discussed without some fool telling me it’s wrong. Unlike him, I’ve presented info to side with my opinions and thoughts. And I’ve done my best to tolerate his asinine behavior until I finally said ‘enough’. And just like this little trial you’re putting me through, I’m done with that as well.

  6. Dude! If you don’t let him come in and argue with you, then how aer you anything but just a coward? Anyone can take potshots at someone who can’t shoot back. You guys are sounding like people who got beat so bad thety’re just taking their ball and going home. I’ve been to xPrae’s site, and I like it because he’s smart and informed and he treats everyone the same. Yes he’s a pompous windbag but he treats everyone the same. I got out of line a few times and I called you some names and he yelled at me even when I was agreeing with him! Btw I’m sorry I called you names. I won’t do it again.

    1. When you’ve had enough of someone’s behavior that one can say is practically abusive, then saying ‘no more’ and telling him to get out and stay out doesn’t seem like a coward’s move to me. After all, there were people who were civil minded and mature in their comments when he came to a blog where they hung out. But xPrae in his arrogance treated them like children. In the end, the blogger knew that he was basically trolling. So, he had to get banned. Why? The blogger can do what he wants on his blog. I’ve done the same, because his borderline insane condescending attitude was tiresome, old and insignificant.

  7. Dude! You were a lot ruder and tougher on him than he EVER was on you! Man! You called him every name there is! I looked. I never found where he called you a single name. And you called him stupid and psycotic and crazy and you name it. Looks like you took the coward’s way out to me adn to my friends. smh

    1. If anyone was rude it was him. I have explained how that is so so many times. I’ve given reasons behind my beef with him. Why you and your friends won’t read them is anyone’s guess.

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